My second book, Souls Speak, fingered serial killer John Wayne Gacy as the likely killer of the three boys in Hannibal, who vanished on May 10, 1967. Gacy was convicted and put to death for the Chicago-area murders of thirty-three young men and boys, most of whom were buried beneath his suburban Chicago home between 1972 and 1978.
The initial story about the boys’ disappearance is documented in my book Lost Boys of Hannibal, about the frantic race-against-time search for the trio in a cave network beneath their Hannibal neighborhood. No evidence of the boys was ever found, despite a month-long search by hundreds of people, including the nation’s top cavers.
Later, my second book, Souls Speak, details the extraordinary supernatural story about how Gacy met the boys, abducted them and killed and buried them south of Hannibal, according to three experience psychics across the country who all essentially tell the same story.
Now, some never-before-heard audio clips of John Gacy talking about his murders are being shared on a Chicago-based podcast, developed and hosted by Bob Motta, the son of one of Gacy’s defense attorneys, Robert Motta. Son Bob Jr. received the box of audio cassettes as a gift on his 21st birthday.
In the tapes, Gacy discusses his crimes and feelings for the victims, often contradicting himself while trying to mislead his own attorneys.
The podcast and the Gacy audio clips can be heard at Defensediaries.com.
The tapes are chilling as you hear Gacy matter-of-factly discuss his evil deeds devoid of any emotion or sense of wrong-doing, often blaming his alternate personality – Jack Hanley – for some of the killings.
Stay tuned. I’ll be writing more about this new development in coming days.
What a journey it has been. My first book, Lost Boys of Hannibal: Inside America’s Largest Cave Search, chronicled one of the nation’s most vexing mysteries. In May of 1967, three Hannibal, Missouri boys, two of whom were childhood friends of mine, went missing after being seen near caves exposed during highway construction. Missouri is the Cave State, with nearly 5,000 identified caves, and Hannibal’s underside is criss-crossed with many dark, narrow passages. Despite a month-long search by the nation’s top cavers, the three boys were never found.
We fast forward to 2018.
I wrote a follow-on book, Souls Speak: Missing Children Reveal their Serial Killer from Beyond, after three evidential psychics identified the boys as the abductees and victims of serial killer John Wayne Gacy. My year-long investigation revealed that all three psychics independently identified the precise location in Ralls County Missouri where they say the bodies of the three boys are buried. Gacy went on to be put to death in the 1990s for the murders of 33 young men and boys in the Chicago area between in 1972 and 1978. Souls Speak laid out a credible theory that placed Gacy in Hannibal in May 1967. He lived in Waterloo, Iowa and drove through Hannibal to visit his mother and sister in Little Rock Arkansas on Mother’s Day.
Now, new information in this remarkable paranormal, true crime story.
We discovered more evidence about Gacy’s travels to Hannibal, and his possible role in the boys’ murders, during a conversation with Shawn Jackson, a cousin to Gacy’s nephew Ray Kasper. In February 2021, while in Hannibal for a family medical matter, New Mexico resident Steve Sederwall, a retired law officer and a childhood friend of Craig Dowell’s, tracked down Jackson who lived in Hannibal for several years in the 1980s and 1990s, and now resides in a small-town west of St. Louis.
Sederwall told me that in a phone conversation with Jackson, he broached the topic of John Wayne Gacy and his possible travels through Hannibal in 1967. Jackson readily acknowledged Gacy regularly drove through Hannibal in the 1960s and 1970s, en route to visit his mother and sister in Little Rock, Arkansas. “He always stayed at the Holiday Inn,” Jackson told Sederwall. This is a big break in our ongoing investigation as it proves Gacy was regularly travelling to Hannibal. The Holiday Inn where Gacy overnighted was located on the western edge of town, just east of Highway 61, the route Gacy would have driven from his home in Waterloo, Iowa, four hours away by car.
When the topic of Hannibal’s three lost boys was mentioned by Sederwall, Jackson openly acknowledged that he, too, had wondered whether his depraved distant relative might have been involved in their abductions and deaths. Jackson spoke to Gacy occasionally at Menard Prison and once even raised the subject. “I asked him if he knew anything about those three boys in Hannibal who went missing. He was evasive about the matter and quickly changed the subject,” Jackson related. It seems clear Gacy was uneasy with the topic and didn’t want to discuss the matter with one of the few people with whom he still maintained a semblance of a normal relationship.
As time progresses, we’re discovering more about Gacy’s travels and his increasingly likely role in the murders of three children taken and dispatched in the bloom of their lives. Shawn Jackson’s admissions are important additional pieces to the puzzle.
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“A most astonishing series of events began to unfold during the late spring and summer of 2018 that fingered John Wayne Gacy as the abductor and killer of the Hoag and Dowell boys.
Equally astounding are the sources of this shocking revelation. Identical stories were told to me by three women intuitive mediums, two in Missouri and one living on a ranch in the state of Wyoming. Within a two-month period, these women independently had visions of the boys’ abductions and murders by Gacy. This information, they explained, was sensed as they channeled the immaterial vibrational energy from the other side in contacts with the etheric spirit of Gacy and the spirits of the missing and long-deceased boys.
In addition, these women believe the boys’ murders were likely Gacy’s first kills, five full years before his murderous spree even began in suburban Chicago. Gacy would have been only twenty-five at the time, barely a man himself. Yet, the Waterloo, Iowa, restaurant manager, married with two small children, was already steeped in a lustful evil that could be sated only by the torture and killing of innocent young boys; true innocents who were denied their lives for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
These psychic sleuths are all sober-minded, responsible, self-described Christian women. Transgressing the veil between worlds, they peered across time and from beyond the chasm between this world and the spiritual realm of the heavenlies to reveal one of the most perplexing and unfathomable experiences of my life….”